Comments on: Would you cancel your subscription if Ensidia got perma-banned?

By: Joycelyn Gessert

Joycelyn Gessert — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:09:05 +0000

I am going to stay up all night raiding in WORLD OF WARCRAFT.

By: Alexis

Alexis — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:11:26 +0000

I don’t think I’d quite because of them, but, blizzard policy has often lead me to wonder if I’m wise in donating my 15$/month to them. If it makes me think that I could possibly be playing the game in a normal way, and suddenly be banned, then I don’t feel I’m making a secure investment and that it’s not worth paying for.

Couldn’t care less about Ensidia themselves, but, Blizzard’s behavior and actions are a bit disconcerting.

By: Kildren

Kildren — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:28:05 +0000

No they new it could happen when they did so they got what they ask for i not going to stop playing the game cause hey where fucking retards

By: Birdfall

Birdfall — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:11:25 +0000

Who?

No, I’m kidding, I know who they are. They’re those people who get mentioned sometimes in WoW Insider post titles for doing stuff.

I don’t actually read the posts. But I see the titles.

A top raiding guild getting banned is part of the ebb and flow of the game. It was bound to happen to somebody, and if Ensidia didn’t learn anything from the Martin Fury incident…. They should know that Blizz doesn’t care who you are or if you intended to exploit a bug. If you exploit, you get in trouble. I’m sure they’ve been first so often because they DO push the envelope, which would only make this situation more inevitable.

Honestly, I like that Blizzard keeps the punishment the same no matter who’s breaking the rules. Makes the world (of Warcraft) seem more fair to us little folk.

Whether or not players agree with the rules in the first place is a discussion in itself, but it’s also moot to whether or not someone should be punished for breaking what rules are in place.

By: Ferarro

Ferarro — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:17:55 +0000

Ensidia is generally considered as the top guild in the world. If you don’t know that, it’s like playing basketball everyday and not knowing who Michael Jordan is. It doesn’t have any bearing on how good or bad of a player you are, but it really limits your references and knowledge. Because if you don’t know who number one is, chances are you have no idea who number 2-10 and lower are (and they’re all likely better than you and your guild), so who are you learning from?

As for the ban, Ensidia “deserved” the ban on a technical standpoint the way a man who’s passed out drunk in his car parked in the driveway with the keys in the passenger seat “deserves” a DUI charge. But on a normal thinking level, no. I’m not going to write a wall of text and break down everything about the encounter, but I read Muqq’s post (http://www.ensidia.com/muqq/blog/4078/) and I agreed with every thing he said. The game isn’t WoW anymore, and Blizzard really doesn’t care too much about high-end players the way it used to. After all, whether you’re raiding 10 hours a day or logging on once a week, it’s still $15/month to them.

Still, this Ensidia ban is no reason for anyone else to quit the game. If you enjoy the game for what it is right now, play on. Play for another 10 years, I say. Have a lifetime subscription. Videogames of all genres are meant for one purpose: Fun. The majority of the 12 million subscribers are having fun with World of Warcraft right now. The only difference is, the veterans and hardcore players aren’t anymore and they’re leaving. It’s not a “good” or “bad” thing for the game; it’s just an exercise of opinion.

• “I have fun playing still. I will keep playing.”
• “I am no longer enjoying this game. I will stop playing.”

It’s that simple. Personally, I’m not having much fun anymore, and every day more reasons pile up as to why WotLK will be my last expansion in World of Warcraft after more than five long years. I’ll likely write about them in a future post, but I just wanted to stop by here and say: Don’t let anyone else dictate why you play. Stay for your own reasons and leave for the same.

-Ferarro

By: Gary

Gary — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:57:11 +0000

What i think is funny is when Exodus did this almost exact thing on yogg+0 and got 72hr ban, and Ensidia said they deserved it for exploiting, but yet when Ensidia gets a taste of the same medicine its /cancel subscription time.

By: Igimund

Igimund — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:37:14 +0000

I don’t care about Ensidia, but I don’t think they should’ve got the 72 hour ban. If Blizz didn’t do their homework on PTR and testing, why should players be punished for Blizz not catching the exploit? I think he makes valid points about Blizz not fully vetting the encounters. My guess is that Blizz figures 98% of subscribers will not see the LK for at least two years, so doesn’t need as much emphasis. Instead I’d wish they would make the encounter foolproof and the work of art it is supposed to be for those that spend the time and effort to get there.

By: Nr

Nr — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:24:49 +0000

Couldn’t care less about Ensidia. They were obviously aware of the fact that they are abusing (as they usually run alt runs before they go in with mains) and they absolutely deserved the ban.

By: Yasminha

Yasminha — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:44:49 +0000

LOL never heard of them. I’m not a hardcore player and why would I quit because someone else got banned?

By: Orvillius@Coilfang

Orvillius@Coilfang — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:36:41 +0000

I read Muqq’s blog post where he ranted about this and then started going through the comments to the post and the self absorbedness of some people astonishes me. WoW has 11 MILLION players. Many of which are completely casual, few of which are “hardcore”. The casual players have never heard of Ensidia…the hardcore players (IMO) should view this ban as an excellent opportunity for their guild to make a run at the world first. I don’t understand what world he’s living in where Blizzard needs to be scared that their 11 million customer base will start to dwindle away because they ban one guild. Even if all of your “hardcore” guilds (defining hardcore for the purpose of this discussion as guilds that could possibly be in the running for world or server firsts) were to up an quit as one I can’t imagine we’re talking about more than one or two percent of their customer base. Blizzard has made it clear (through their actions) that they are focused on their much larger casual customer base. Right or wrong players like Muqq and his guildmates in Ensidia just aren’t that vital to them.