Comments on: PvP Prot/Holy Paladins Going Away

By: ragemoar

ragemoar — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:12:48 +0000

Currently 3.3.3 Holy paladins are almost impossible to kill, no offense but if I catch a holy pally with his pants down and get my chain cc’s off, he shouldn’t be able to heal up at all. Prot is equally just as bad as prot pallies just roll dps gear and hit as hard or harder than any melee class… blizzard needs to wake up and nerf pallies so that they are actually balanced.

By: Honestly

Honestly — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:16:04 +0000

Prot paladins are NOT ment for healing, and they are currently destroying what ever arena balance there is, as they are not able to be killed in 2v2. How is it logic to enable a class spec the way that they get insane mana regen (no use manadraining), 1.5 sec heals (hard to cc if not possible at all for some classes), high amount of armor and hp, small stunns with no seeming DR what so ever + hammer, AND alot more bubble action.. It’s just a total pisstake tbh.. it realy is. period. Hope they fix this soon, it’s more of an exploit then anything else.

By: Hellafoy

Hellafoy — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:21:42 +0000

Fuck WoW. I quit.

By: Tasadar

Tasadar — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:45:36 +0000

I play this spec in my arena’s and i don’t believe this nerf is justified. bunch of people say that just cuz i don’t wanna be nerfed but with no instant casts no way to heal both or more people at the same time really makes it a tough spec to play (easier than holy cuz it sucks).

Also they say we have infinite mana ya at a cost (50% healing nerf= quite substantial cost for more mana). and the buff to innervate wtf? pretty much just free mana. a priest just mana burns it to nothing and with his rogue partner nuking heals in half also, you only hit for 25% of your heals= healing? lol

And aron im sry but i don’t know what your talking about prot healing in pve it would be useless beyond all reason in pve. try a full 1.5 second cast again not doubled by beacon and with that slow cast holy could easily pump out more heals than the measly buff you’d get from stam on pve gear. I top charts constantly using flash shock and holy lights if necessary. just adapt, we 2 pally heal ulduar just fine so we got a buff on raid and tank healing. and the shield wtf? thats a disc priest, or we could just make all healers the same sound good?

By: Svarte

Svarte — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:08:18 +0000

I have tried 33/38/0 in BG´s (and in somewhat extent Arena). Have a lot of survivabilty.
Healing less yes but survive also much much longer.

And the Prot/holy nerf will not touch the, in my humble opinion, exiting Prot/retri specc(0/52/19) in retri gear.
Havnt done the mats but if it gives even more damage I am starting to get nervous the nerftrain at forums will start focus on this setup instead.

By: Tullkas

Tullkas — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:44:59 +0000

this new patch change doesnt nerf the spec. it just completely destroy it.

By: full

full — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:16:20 +0000

ok, patch 3.2.2 is coming:

Touched by the Light: This talent now provides 20/40/60% of the paladin’s strength as spell power instead of 10/20/30% of the paladin’s stamina.

By: full

full — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:34:17 +0000

a prot paladin with holy gear has greater healing capacity because of only one reasen: he can defend himself against players who come too close (20sec HoJ, avengers revenge 30sec, far better block chance, better parry, better avoid). a holy paladin has what? o yes, HoJ every 1 minute - but that’s all.

i think in a scenario where no one would be attacking the paladin, the holy paladin would outperform the prot paladin in healing capacities. but this will be not the case in any battleground you visit. you see a healer, you go for the healer

By: Elivel

Elivel — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:01:37 +0000

I think it boils down to the fact that a prot paladin in holy gear, not only had more survivability; but also happened to have a greater healing capacity…

I don’t think they should completely kill the prot pvp healing; but in the same breath… a prot paladin shouldn’t be able to out heal the tree dedicated to healing.

I’m sure blizzard would hit Holy with a Nerf bat if we suddenly became a better tank then Prot, if we put on tanking gear.

There is a difference between viable at something and excelling at something.

By: full

full — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:36:04 +0000

i played holy pvp and tank (with holy gear) pvp. and i must say that tank with holy is much more fun then holy

few weeks ago some blizz official said the “playing def with holy gear in pvp” is nothing to complain about but just using the game mechanics in an other way they ever thought about. but he also said that there is no reason to chance any things.

and now after enough “nerf them” calls blizz is again throwing the nerf hammer at us. i’m disapointed..