Comments on: Holy Paladin Gear - Haste or Crit?

By: Rndomdude

Rndomdude — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:57:09 +0000

wouldnt Int be more importnt then Crit becuz of the talent tht increazez spell pwer by Total intellect?

By: Stubb

Stubb — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:07:28 +0000

I disagree with the notion that you don’t need to worry about crit if you’re casting HL all the time. The more crit you have the more you’re only using a 1/3 of your mana. I mean fol only costs about 250 man per cast where as HL costs about 1200 mana. With the new GS craze, the old HL libram is out plus the new blinding light sp stacks are nice to keep up. So with more crit, you are doing HL’s for 800 mana more often and only 170 mana with fol. I think the correct combinations for fol/hs spammer (mucho sp, mucho haste and moderate crit/int) for hl spammer, (moderate sp/haste, mucho crit and mucho int)

Have to be carefull if you’re a haste nut, faster you cast heals, the faster you go oom. And if you’re only using 15k mana in ICC fights, you should be dropped. Haste is more of a “Oh Sh*t let me heal that guy real fast” where as holydins are usually tank healers dealing with spike damage and cant afford to wait (be reactive healers).

By: admin

admin — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:21:54 +0000

You’re right z, that’s a good point. I’ll add it to the article.

By: z

Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:48:02 +0000

haste helps with gcd. therefore it does help with holy shock. point 3 should be taken off

By: admin

admin — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:58:31 +0000

You don’t really need any crit if you are using Holy Light a lot. If you’re using Holy Shock and Flash of Light a lot though then crit will help you out quite a bit and is one of your more important stats. If that’s the case, there really isn’t a limit to how much crit you should have as long as you’re not neglecting your other stats. Since I don’t know what your other stats are, or your build, I can’t really tell you if 34.49% holy is good or not. But in general there is no specific number to shoot for. There’s no specific reason not to go above 50% crit, for example.

By: yas

yas — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:11:58 +0000

Is there a recomended amount of crit to shoot for? Currently my number is 464 giving me 29.47% regular and 34.49% holy. I was just wondering what I should be looking to get?

By: Lyxis

Lyxis — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:09:49 +0000

I stumbled across this site while trying to find info about haste for healadins, so I hope it’s not too late to get some feedback. In my current gear, I have 383 haste (11.6%). I have a ton of triumph badges and I’m thinking of getting the 245 helm, shoulders and the healing ring. My biggest concern is that every one of those items will result in a substantial loss of haste. I am guessing I will lose well over a hundred haste after switching in the new items.

I’ve heard people suggest that having at least 400 haste is recommended. Am I flirting with disaster if I try to upgrade with the Triumph items?

By: brandon

brandon — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:16:16 +0000

ok thanks for the help i think i did good we will soon see and agin thanks for the help anf info i will be reading this page for a long time do you have others on diff classes like shadow priest

By: admin

admin — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:25:06 +0000

Your spec is completely normal, brandon. It should serve you well. I do have a couple small commments. I take Improved Blessing of Might over Improved Judgements. Neither helps you personally, but Improved Blessing of Might could help your group depending on who’s in it. I also take Improved Lay on Hands and Improved Blessing of Wisdom over Aura Mastery and Improved Concentration Aura, mainly because Silence and Interrupt effects don’t happen often in raids (with some notable exceptions). On the other hand, Lay on Hands and Wisdom are abilities you could find useful every single fight.

Your game play changes a lot depending on if you stack Intellect or Spell Power or a mix of both. You’ll need to use Flash of Light more and be a more reactive raid healer if you stack Spell Power. You’ll need to use Holy Light more and be more proactive and more of a tank healer if you stack Intellect. Your choice even affects how your other healers heal because if you are doing more raid healing, then they will need to do more tank healing.

I find that stacking spell power with multiple healers on the tank leads to more stable health for both the tank and the raid, but it is also a more difficult and reactive way to heal. I like Spell Power because it improves all of your abilities. Stacking Intellect gives you a weaker FoL (and HoT), HS, and SS (and HL) but it allows you to use Holy Light more, which is your strongest heal, so both methods are valid. One thing to note is that as far as stat budget points go, gemming for Intellect is the clear choice if you’re just looking to get the most out of your stats.

Definitely listen to Dartanlla about getting the Insightful Earthsiege Diamond.

By: Dartanlla

Dartanlla — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:02:44 +0000

Brandon,

It is kind of hard to analyze your toon since you are currently specced as ret, but based on your gear, here are a few tips:

1. Swap your meta gem to an Insightful Earthsiege Diamond. It is really the only choice for healers. The 600 mana every 45 seconds is just too much to pass up (and you get 21 more int. You will need at least 1 red, 1 blue, and 1 yellow gem to fulfil the meta requirements. Most Holy Paladins are doing this by putting a Nightmare Tear in one of their Blue or Red gem slots. This will fufill your meta requirement and you can continue stacking 20 int gems in all other gem slots.

2. You have the right idea with stacking all int gems, but the more you can get the better. Run the heroic daily every day and get 50 Emblems of Triumph so you can buy the Talisman of Resurgence trinket. It will add 128 int. It is one of the best upgrades you can get. People often argue with me that I have “too much” int, but I have 36.5k mana and I still don’t feel that it is enough. The more mana I have the more haste I can push without going OOM. I’d rather have a 1.3 sec Holy Light that averages 15k heals than a 1.8 sec Holy Light that averages 20k.

3. Use Badges of Conquest to upgrade as much of your gear as possible and you should be set for entry into ToC raiding. Remember, there are some really great upgrades in the 5 Man ToC dungeon.

Good luck!
Dartanlla - WildHammer - Synergized GM