Comments on: Flash of Light, Lay on Hands, Sacred Shield Changes - Patch 3.3 http://www.holypaladin.net/index.php/flash-of-light-lay-on-hands-sacred-shield-changes-patch-33 Your daily holy paladin guide Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:37:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Gawek http://www.holypaladin.net/index.php/flash-of-light-lay-on-hands-sacred-shield-changes-patch-33/comment-page-1#comment-2532 Gawek Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:22:15 +0000 http://www.holypaladin.net/?p=1225#comment-2532 Well, I sure would like the Flash of Light HoT to go on people without Sacred Shield. Now, this would make us pretty decent raid healers and would have us compete with the Druids. I'm not one of these Pallys who wants to be the best of every type of healer. I know that each has their specialty. But they could give us the Flash of Light HoT on anybody, regardless of the Sacred Shield, but have it that each Holy Pally can only have 4 people with the HoT on 'em at any one time. If you cast a FoL HoT on the 5th person, they get the HoT and the first person loses theirs. This would improve our raid healing a bit, but still keep us that we're always the tank healer. Well, I sure would like the Flash of Light HoT to go on people without Sacred Shield. Now, this would make us pretty decent raid healers and would have us compete with the Druids. I’m not one of these Pallys who wants to be the best of every type of healer. I know that each has their specialty. But they could give us the Flash of Light HoT on anybody, regardless of the Sacred Shield, but have it that each Holy Pally can only have 4 people with the HoT on ‘em at any one time. If you cast a FoL HoT on the 5th person, they get the HoT and the first person loses theirs. This would improve our raid healing a bit, but still keep us that we’re always the tank healer.

]]> By: Dreaming http://www.holypaladin.net/index.php/flash-of-light-lay-on-hands-sacred-shield-changes-patch-33/comment-page-1#comment-2527 Dreaming Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:08:03 +0000 http://www.holypaladin.net/?p=1225#comment-2527 I much prefer these changes to the ones that were first announced. As it has been said the change to the FoL hot / Sacred Shield combo has just been forgotten in the patch build notes, I can't think about how OP Flash of Light would be with such an additional effect not limited to the one person having our Shield. What surprises me is a comment from Blizzard I read about a week ago saying that, even with all the tools we have, a lot of paladins still mostly only use Holy Light as their main spell. I tried to post my views about paladin healing in 3.2 here: http://atouchofarcane.blogspot.com/2009/09/raid-healing-for-holy-paladins-post-32.html, I would really appreciate to read what you think about the tools we have now as a whole. Thank you for your continuous posts, they are always very detailed and informative. I much prefer these changes to the ones that were first announced.
As it has been said the change to the FoL hot / Sacred Shield combo has just been forgotten in the patch build notes, I can’t think about how OP Flash of Light would be with such an additional effect not limited to the one person having our Shield.
What surprises me is a comment from Blizzard I read about a week ago saying that, even with all the tools we have, a lot of paladins still mostly only use Holy Light as their main spell.
I tried to post my views about paladin healing in 3.2 here: http://atouchofarcane.blogspot.com/2009/09/raid-healing-for-holy-paladins-post-32.html, I would really appreciate to read what you think about the tools we have now as a whole.

Thank you for your continuous posts, they are always very detailed and informative.

]]> By: Cygnia http://www.holypaladin.net/index.php/flash-of-light-lay-on-hands-sacred-shield-changes-patch-33/comment-page-1#comment-2525 Cygnia Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:12:28 +0000 http://www.holypaladin.net/?p=1225#comment-2525 If DI can now be cast every 10 minutes, is it possible to have the reagents stack in groups larger than 5? If DI can now be cast every 10 minutes, is it possible to have the reagents stack in groups larger than 5?

]]> By: admin http://www.holypaladin.net/index.php/flash-of-light-lay-on-hands-sacred-shield-changes-patch-33/comment-page-1#comment-2524 admin Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:22:47 +0000 http://www.holypaladin.net/?p=1225#comment-2524 Yeah, that's not what the patch notes are saying, but it does make more sense that way. A flat-out HoT would be overpowered, IMO. Yeah, that’s not what the patch notes are saying, but it does make more sense that way. A flat-out HoT would be overpowered, IMO.

]]> By: Nanolino http://www.holypaladin.net/index.php/flash-of-light-lay-on-hands-sacred-shield-changes-patch-33/comment-page-1#comment-2522 Nanolino Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:06:05 +0000 http://www.holypaladin.net/?p=1225#comment-2522 ^ Been reading the same in other forums, which takes the wind out my 3.3 hype. Will Infusion of light keep its original talent and add the SS FoL HoT, or will the SS FoL HoT overwrite the current talent functionality? If it's the latter, giving "only" the SS FoL HoT, would it be worth taking at all? ^ Been reading the same in other forums, which takes the wind out my 3.3 hype. Will Infusion of light keep its original talent and add the SS FoL HoT, or will the SS FoL HoT overwrite the current talent functionality?

If it’s the latter, giving “only” the SS FoL HoT, would it be worth taking at all?

]]> By: jdh http://www.holypaladin.net/index.php/flash-of-light-lay-on-hands-sacred-shield-changes-patch-33/comment-page-1#comment-2521 jdh Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:50:02 +0000 http://www.holypaladin.net/?p=1225#comment-2521 There is a misunderstanding in the patch notes. The FoL HoT still requires Sacred Shield to be applied to the target for the HoT effect to be triggered. On the PTR, the SS-FoL HoT interaction is still the same as it has been since 3.2; you just need to be specced into Infusion of Light for the HoT to proc at all. I highly, highly doubt a spammable FoL HoT is intended to be implemented either, because it would be ridiculously overpowered. You would then have paladins able to output 10k HPS on a tank as well as blanket like 10+ raid members with a HoT. I really don't see that happening. There is a misunderstanding in the patch notes. The FoL HoT still requires Sacred Shield to be applied to the target for the HoT effect to be triggered. On the PTR, the SS-FoL HoT interaction is still the same as it has been since 3.2; you just need to be specced into Infusion of Light for the HoT to proc at all.

I highly, highly doubt a spammable FoL HoT is intended to be implemented either, because it would be ridiculously overpowered. You would then have paladins able to output 10k HPS on a tank as well as blanket like 10+ raid members with a HoT. I really don’t see that happening.

]]> By: admin http://www.holypaladin.net/index.php/flash-of-light-lay-on-hands-sacred-shield-changes-patch-33/comment-page-1#comment-2519 admin Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:18:51 +0000 http://www.holypaladin.net/?p=1225#comment-2519 Yeah, I'm confident the HoT won't get transferred to the tank since it doesn't currently. Personally, I'll still be using Holy Shock a lot. In fact, I'll enjoy those instant cast Flash of Lights even more now. Paladins are definitely about more than single-target healing now. At a minimimum we are two target healers. But a Holy Pally can also do a great deal of raid healing while also helping keep up the tank if we need to. I would definitely recommend getting back into things. =-D Yeah, I’m confident the HoT won’t get transferred to the tank since it doesn’t currently.

Personally, I’ll still be using Holy Shock a lot. In fact, I’ll enjoy those instant cast Flash of Lights even more now.

Paladins are definitely about more than single-target healing now. At a minimimum we are two target healers. But a Holy Pally can also do a great deal of raid healing while also helping keep up the tank if we need to. I would definitely recommend getting back into things. =-D

]]> By: ksuvalk http://www.holypaladin.net/index.php/flash-of-light-lay-on-hands-sacred-shield-changes-patch-33/comment-page-1#comment-2518 ksuvalk Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:25:24 +0000 http://www.holypaladin.net/?p=1225#comment-2518 Ok so I haven't played for over a year. Had a 70+ fire mage, got tired of him, then built a 70+ prot pally that re-specced holy. At the time, the only real option was single target healing the tank or off tank. Have things changed? Worth getting back into things? Thx. Ok so I haven’t played for over a year. Had a 70+ fire mage, got tired of him, then built a 70+ prot pally that re-specced holy. At the time, the only real option was single target healing the tank or off tank. Have things changed? Worth getting back into things? Thx.

]]> By: Ferarro http://www.holypaladin.net/index.php/flash-of-light-lay-on-hands-sacred-shield-changes-patch-33/comment-page-1#comment-2512 Ferarro Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:36:58 +0000 http://www.holypaladin.net/?p=1225#comment-2512 @Nano: There's a good chance the FoL HoT won't carry over to the Beacon since, as you put it, it would be insanely OP and there would be no point for any other class of healer. =P @Nano: There’s a good chance the FoL HoT won’t carry over to the Beacon since, as you put it, it would be insanely OP and there would be no point for any other class of healer. =P

]]> By: Nanolino http://www.holypaladin.net/index.php/flash-of-light-lay-on-hands-sacred-shield-changes-patch-33/comment-page-1#comment-2511 Nanolino Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:32:54 +0000 http://www.holypaladin.net/?p=1225#comment-2511 ^ above post was also assuming that the FoL HoT gets mirrored onto the beacon target, which after skimming the elitistjerks.com forum apparently isnt going to happen. Question: Will the buff to FoL make Holy Shock obsolete in any situation that doesnt require a last second life saving insta cast? ^ above post was also assuming that the FoL HoT gets mirrored onto the beacon target, which after skimming the elitistjerks.com forum apparently isnt going to happen.

Question: Will the buff to FoL make Holy Shock obsolete in any situation that doesnt require a last second life saving insta cast?

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