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		<title>By: Zeny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who wears PvP gloves for the 2% crit on flash of light?....
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		<title>By: Brisíngr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brisíngr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Who complain about warlock lifetapping..."

I started play WoW last year and rolled a Warlock as my first toon and have played it since. Being a demo lock I have a very bad mana pool and need to lifetap constant, both to keep the pool up and convert spirit to SP. This seems to be annoying to some healers and they start complaining, I can still rememeber a couple of occations and they were holy paladins :) This never happens in raids, only HC. 

A month ago I decided I need an alt to fill my times between raids, so I rolled a Paladin and leveled as retri. I reached 80 just 2 weeks ago and dual specced into holy. I really enjoy healing with my holy pala but still have a lot to learn and gearing up. This site has been very useful, thanx for all the info and effort going into keeping it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Who complain about warlock lifetapping&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I started play WoW last year and rolled a Warlock as my first toon and have played it since. Being a demo lock I have a very bad mana pool and need to lifetap constant, both to keep the pool up and convert spirit to SP. This seems to be annoying to some healers and they start complaining, I can still rememeber a couple of occations and they were holy paladins <img src='http://www.holypaladin.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> This never happens in raids, only HC. </p>
<p>A month ago I decided I need an alt to fill my times between raids, so I rolled a Paladin and leveled as retri. I reached 80 just 2 weeks ago and dual specced into holy. I really enjoy healing with my holy pala but still have a lot to learn and gearing up. This site has been very useful, thanx for all the info and effort going into keeping it up.</p>
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		<title>By: dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ jugulator:

It is normal for a pally to overheal more than he heals.  Some bosses hit so hard and fast that if you reactivly try to heal the tank they will die before your heal goes off.
Ending the fight at full mana with no overheal and half the raid dead is worse than having 90% overheal and almost no mana left but having everyone still alive.

Half mana bar? how much mana do you have? 8K? and why would you glyph that anyway, there are much better pally glyphs.

-Please just dont Hand of protection the guy who is currently tanking the boss. Dont DI him either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ jugulator:</p>
<p>It is normal for a pally to overheal more than he heals.  Some bosses hit so hard and fast that if you reactivly try to heal the tank they will die before your heal goes off.<br />
Ending the fight at full mana with no overheal and half the raid dead is worse than having 90% overheal and almost no mana left but having everyone still alive.</p>
<p>Half mana bar? how much mana do you have? 8K? and why would you glyph that anyway, there are much better pally glyphs.</p>
<p>-Please just dont Hand of protection the guy who is currently tanking the boss. Dont DI him either.</p>
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		<title>By: Jugulator</title>
		<link>http://www.holypaladin.net/index.php/dont-be-that-holy-paladin/comment-page-1#comment-3366</link>
		<dc:creator>Jugulator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Who overheals more than he healed
...Who is smart enough to think the others should come in his range instead him going in their range
...Who uses divine plea when the boss enrages and/or the tank is dying
...Who uses Lay on Hands to heal instead of gaining half mana bar
...Who doesn't remember he has the bubble + heartstone when the others are boons and don't know the tactics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Who overheals more than he healed<br />
&#8230;Who is smart enough to think the others should come in his range instead him going in their range<br />
&#8230;Who uses divine plea when the boss enrages and/or the tank is dying<br />
&#8230;Who uses Lay on Hands to heal instead of gaining half mana bar<br />
&#8230;Who doesn&#8217;t remember he has the bubble + heartstone when the others are boons and don&#8217;t know the tactics</p>
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		<title>By: Evalin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evalin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Threat in Faction Champions is governed by three things:

1. Armor (for physical) or Resistances (for magic)
2. Proximity
3. Health Deficit

As a holy pally on faction champs, if I beacon myself I'm almost guaranteed to not get targetted, as long as I keep my distance/get out of whirlwind/etc. Because my health stays up, I am therefore able to focus more on healing and cleansing the raid rather than running for my life from a mob who decided to pick on me. I recommend beaconing yourself as a holy pally on this fight for this reason. But pretty much every other fight I do, I have beacon on someone else. 

I definitely miss this when I switch over to a clothie alt, where I *do* wind up running for my life too often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Threat in Faction Champions is governed by three things:</p>
<p>1. Armor (for physical) or Resistances (for magic)<br />
2. Proximity<br />
3. Health Deficit</p>
<p>As a holy pally on faction champs, if I beacon myself I&#8217;m almost guaranteed to not get targetted, as long as I keep my distance/get out of whirlwind/etc. Because my health stays up, I am therefore able to focus more on healing and cleansing the raid rather than running for my life from a mob who decided to pick on me. I recommend beaconing yourself as a holy pally on this fight for this reason. But pretty much every other fight I do, I have beacon on someone else. </p>
<p>I definitely miss this when I switch over to a clothie alt, where I *do* wind up running for my life too often.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We actually do this:
"…who uses Shadow Resistance Aura while everyone has Shadow Protection."
on Twins Valkyr 25 Heroic - cause of Aura Mastery :)

And yes, we ofc. have enough palas to all other auras meanwhile</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We actually do this:<br />
&#8220;…who uses Shadow Resistance Aura while everyone has Shadow Protection.&#8221;<br />
on Twins Valkyr 25 Heroic - cause of Aura Mastery <img src='http://www.holypaladin.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And yes, we ofc. have enough palas to all other auras meanwhile</p>
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		<title>By: khassad</title>
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		<dc:creator>khassad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"…who still puts Beacon on yourself."

I use beacon on myself only when tank-healing Algalon 25-man. The other paladin puts beacon on tank and helps raid-healing. We find it better to have at least one paladin direct healing the tank currently in aggro.

In Faction Champions fight I usually put beacon on a warlock taking constant damage. In that fight beacon has a great tactic advantage: you can heal the beaconed also when largely out of range (it happens very often).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;…who still puts Beacon on yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>I use beacon on myself only when tank-healing Algalon 25-man. The other paladin puts beacon on tank and helps raid-healing. We find it better to have at least one paladin direct healing the tank currently in aggro.</p>
<p>In Faction Champions fight I usually put beacon on a warlock taking constant damage. In that fight beacon has a great tactic advantage: you can heal the beaconed also when largely out of range (it happens very often).</p>
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		<title>By: Renyojd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renyojd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to say - thanks - great site. :-)

Good idea on the Champs fight - using an unusual spec for such a non-standard PvE fight!  Maybe a PvP Healadin spec - or even some kind of Sheeth spec?!  My second spec is sitting unused at the moment - might have a play and see what I come up with!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to say - thanks - great site. <img src='http://www.holypaladin.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good idea on the Champs fight - using an unusual spec for such a non-standard PvE fight!  Maybe a PvP Healadin spec - or even some kind of Sheeth spec?!  My second spec is sitting unused at the moment - might have a play and see what I come up with!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, for some reason whenever you guys said Faction Champs I was thinking of Twins.  whooops!

Yes, Beacon on yourself is fine in Faction Champs.  I know I laughed about being a Holy Paladin and not using Beacon, but that's one fight where I actually don't use Beacon.  I actually change to a healing spec that doesn't even have Beacon since its mostly worthless on that specific fight.  I know its only one talent point but I've found very little use for it on that fight except the rare times when I'm focused without a way to get away.  I also don't like taking the time to refresh it on that fight, and so I just pick up a pvp talent instead.

But that is definitely one fight where I would Beacon myself over anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, for some reason whenever you guys said Faction Champs I was thinking of Twins.  whooops!</p>
<p>Yes, Beacon on yourself is fine in Faction Champs.  I know I laughed about being a Holy Paladin and not using Beacon, but that&#8217;s one fight where I actually don&#8217;t use Beacon.  I actually change to a healing spec that doesn&#8217;t even have Beacon since its mostly worthless on that specific fight.  I know its only one talent point but I&#8217;ve found very little use for it on that fight except the rare times when I&#8217;m focused without a way to get away.  I also don&#8217;t like taking the time to refresh it on that fight, and so I just pick up a pvp talent instead.</p>
<p>But that is definitely one fight where I would Beacon myself over anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Renyojd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renyojd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice!  Not only useful for new Healadins and reminders for others - but funny too (because it's true!).

…who still has Crusader aura  -  addon RaidBuffStatus can tell you who! (and combat log?).  Regarding the doubling of auras - true - although two pallys spec'd with Aura Mastery might want to run the same {likely resistance} aura in certain fights (maybe depending on other Pallys bringing the other auras).

…who consistently overwrites the other paladin’s blessings  -  Pally Power (or ZOMGbuffs).  Seriously - I was the only Pally in my last (first) guild who ran this!  Yes - you can get by without it - why?

…who casts Sacred Shield on a target who already has it  -  last I heard pallys can only cast one SS - but multiple SS's can be on one target and proc separately.

…who wears all Cloth  -  can you bold the 'all' plz. :-P  Don't hate me because I focus on healing and not tanking adds! ;-)

…who uses Shadow Resistance Aura while everyone has Shadow Protection  -  I agree, and never done it myself, but using Shadow Res Aura during some fights (e.g. Twins) with Aura Mastery could be useful.  (I just run Fire Res Aura to deal with the Light damage - but a AM spec'd pally could rotatate depending on surges, or multiple AM spec'd pallys).

And, replies on the comments:

For an Int stacking Healadin you'd still end up losing Int by using an Ember Skyflare - due to the requirement to socket three orange {red} gems to activate.  By the time you've done that, and not gotten the 21 Int from Insightful, you end up with less Int.  Insightful can be activated with a Yellow, Orange, Purple mix - or one Nightmare Tear (trade-off - but more Int).

If you're going to be socketing Orange (or even Red) gems anyway - then the Ember may be a sensible choice for your play style (though still not sure).  That said - trading a nice mana proc (70mp5 or more averaged out?) for 25 spell power?

I beacon myself also for Faction Champions in both ToC and ToGC.  While it's technically more efficient to determine one person who is going to take regular damage and beacon them - this fight is so fluid - that regular healing is not an issue.  Healing here generally shouldn't be high (if the others are doing their jobs with interupts/cc/mass-dispel) but bursty.  I rotate Cleanse &amp; Holy Shock, throwing Holy Light as needed. (+ using other talents - such as AM+Conc Aura, Bubble+Sac {careful in case bubble is dispeled!} and refreshing things as needed).

So - makes it easier to put Beacon on myself and not have to worry while I take care of the raid.  Sacred Shield I usualy put on the Disc Priest - although I've occasionally started it on the Rogue in ToGC - as they sometimes get squished in the first few seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice!  Not only useful for new Healadins and reminders for others - but funny too (because it&#8217;s true!).</p>
<p>…who still has Crusader aura  -  addon RaidBuffStatus can tell you who! (and combat log?).  Regarding the doubling of auras - true - although two pallys spec&#8217;d with Aura Mastery might want to run the same {likely resistance} aura in certain fights (maybe depending on other Pallys bringing the other auras).</p>
<p>…who consistently overwrites the other paladin’s blessings  -  Pally Power (or ZOMGbuffs).  Seriously - I was the only Pally in my last (first) guild who ran this!  Yes - you can get by without it - why?</p>
<p>…who casts Sacred Shield on a target who already has it  -  last I heard pallys can only cast one SS - but multiple SS&#8217;s can be on one target and proc separately.</p>
<p>…who wears all Cloth  -  can you bold the &#8216;all&#8217; plz. <img src='http://www.holypaladin.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' />  Don&#8217;t hate me because I focus on healing and not tanking adds! <img src='http://www.holypaladin.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>…who uses Shadow Resistance Aura while everyone has Shadow Protection  -  I agree, and never done it myself, but using Shadow Res Aura during some fights (e.g. Twins) with Aura Mastery could be useful.  (I just run Fire Res Aura to deal with the Light damage - but a AM spec&#8217;d pally could rotatate depending on surges, or multiple AM spec&#8217;d pallys).</p>
<p>And, replies on the comments:</p>
<p>For an Int stacking Healadin you&#8217;d still end up losing Int by using an Ember Skyflare - due to the requirement to socket three orange {red} gems to activate.  By the time you&#8217;ve done that, and not gotten the 21 Int from Insightful, you end up with less Int.  Insightful can be activated with a Yellow, Orange, Purple mix - or one Nightmare Tear (trade-off - but more Int).</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to be socketing Orange (or even Red) gems anyway - then the Ember may be a sensible choice for your play style (though still not sure).  That said - trading a nice mana proc (70mp5 or more averaged out?) for 25 spell power?</p>
<p>I beacon myself also for Faction Champions in both ToC and ToGC.  While it&#8217;s technically more efficient to determine one person who is going to take regular damage and beacon them - this fight is so fluid - that regular healing is not an issue.  Healing here generally shouldn&#8217;t be high (if the others are doing their jobs with interupts/cc/mass-dispel) but bursty.  I rotate Cleanse &amp; Holy Shock, throwing Holy Light as needed. (+ using other talents - such as AM+Conc Aura, Bubble+Sac {careful in case bubble is dispeled!} and refreshing things as needed).</p>
<p>So - makes it easier to put Beacon on myself and not have to worry while I take care of the raid.  Sacred Shield I usualy put on the Disc Priest - although I&#8217;ve occasionally started it on the Rogue in ToGC - as they sometimes get squished in the first few seconds.</p>
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