Blizzard Removing BG Marks and adding Random Battlegrounds
Blizzard made some pretty big battleground-related announcements yesterday that will be coming in the next small content patch before Cataclysm.
First, they are removing the daily Battleground quest and instead have created a random battleground tool similiar to the Dungeon Finder tool that gives rewards in a similiar way. With the “Battleground Finder” you can queue for a random battleground and get a lot extra honor for the first battleground you win: 30 honorable kills worth. For every random BG you win after that, you’ll get 15 honorable kills. You also get an extra 5 honor kills worth of honor even if you lose when using the random battleground finder. The holiday weekend also works the exact same way, even if you choose that specific BG, but the two bonuses don’t stack, you only get one or the other each day. There’s no word on whether the first random battleground win will still include 25 arena points. I hope it does.
The second announcement they made is that they are removing all battleground marks of honor and adjusting the price of anything that requires these marks accordingly. I’m assuming that anything that requires marks of honor (like the pvp mounts) will now only require honor points. Vendors will still exist so you can cash in your old marks, but there’s no word on whether you’ll be able to cash them in one at a time or if you still will need one of each or what you’ll be able to get.
The last big announcement is that they are reducing the amount of honor you get from the weekly Wintergrasp quests but doubling the amount of honor you get from honor kills and other objectives in all battlegrounds. They’ve changed the WG quests quite a lot over time (they used to be daily quests) to try to balance the amount of honor gained with the effort. What this means is that Wintergrasp will be more useful to run even after you’ve completed all the quests for the week. Right now it really only seems worth it to run Wintergrasp to complete the quests, so this is a good change, I think.
Overall, it sounds like honor will be easier to get. We won’t need to travel to Dalaran to pick up or turn in our daily BG quest, which is good. The system where you need one of each BG mark to buy anything is just bad (I never seem to have any AV marks) and will get worse as they add more battlegrounds, so the removal of the marks entirely is a smart move, although I will miss the Wintergrasp marks if they’re removing those too.
I think these changes are good. The biggest thing I’ve hated about the honor grind is how little honor you get from regular battlegrounds compared to doing the weekly Wintergrasp quests. It almost doesn’t seem worth it, especially after doing your daily PvP quest. You could do just one or two Wintergrasps and get 25 to 35 thousand honor after turning in Stone Keeper’s Shards and WG marks. It made the rest of your week seem even more like a pointless grind, especially when you lost over and over. You might as well wait a week for the big honor injection from the WG weeklys instead of grinding BGs all day for very little honor. These changes should make regular battleground rewards more in line with the weekly wintergrasp quests and hopefully get more people into the other battlegrounds.
In other news, it sounds like there will be a new single-boss instance in the Ruby Sanctum coming out in the next patch, similiar to the Obsidian Sanctum. We’ve been waiting for the new dungeons in Dragonblight ever since Wrath launched, so I’m excited to see what they have in store.
What do you think about these changes?
They said it in a confusing way, but I think they aren’t changing the amount of honor you get from the WG quests. A WG quest will be worth half as many HKs, but since HKs are worth twice as much it will cancel out. At least, that was my reading of it.
Hmm, you could be right. They did say, “the amount of Honor awarded for completing the Wintergrasp weekly quests have been reduced by 50%.” That seems pretty clear. However, if the honor for the WG quests is calculated based on honor kills the same way that killing a tower is then maybe the honor isn’t changed. Still, it seems pretty clear that they said it is reduced by 50%.
I’m inclined to think that the WG quests themselves are not based on honor kills. I think it may cancel out in a way because you will get more honor from honor kills and from completing objectives like destroying a tower so you’ll be getting more honor that way. But the actual honor gained from the quests themselves will still be half what they used to be.
But we’ll see!
If this means I only need to spend/grind honor to get the PVP mounts as opposed to getting marks, I’m all for it (providing it’s a reasonable cost).
As for Ruby Sanctum, sweet!
Actually, there’s no mention about them removing any specific mounts like the AV battle ram, is there?
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